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Re: Flexibility

he4rty — Mon Dec 03, 2024 11:34 am

Author: he4rty

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2024 11:34 am

been looking at a few sites on stretching and there is one common factor warm up before doing any stretches, a simple march on the spot for 5min with legs not going higher than knees and arms not going higher than shoulders. the reason is a cold muscle stretched has more chance of ripping.

Re: Flexibility

jstntlvr — Wed Nov 28, 2024 5:27 pm

Author: jstntlvr

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2024 5:27 pm

[quote="Somnilocus"]
Why, you likey?

*POOF* it has changed again, as if by some sort of magics. [/quote]

yea im a sucker for fanserv

Colin
exactly and the more you do it the better prepared you will be for unexpected performances and dont forget stretch after you play aswell as befor

Cannonball
that site is verry cool I see some stuff that can greatly improve my CJing and handdrumming

Re: Flexibility

Cannonballjames — Wed Nov 28, 2024 4:20 pm

Author: Cannonballjames

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2024 4:20 pm

I do hand and wrist loosening/stretching stuff before I start. I'm a drummer, so I do stuff we did on the drum line to limber up; wrist rolls, arm rotations, stuff like that. I know one I do (take it easy with this one if you're wrists aren't so limber) is I hold a stick with both hands palm up, pinkies together, then rotate the stick in and down so its now under my arms, then extend my arms out again. If you're wrists aren't all that loose, I would recommend probably not extending your arms out totally straight, and maybe not having quite as tight of a grip on the sticks so your wrist isn't rotated over quite as far. I'll also do the same palm up grip and just rotate the stick straight up (or past) each direction. That gets my wrists nice and loose, and I just to a little bit of regular stretches for the rest. I usually do some of the finger exercises that Shifty was showing in the Playing in the Multisphere dvd (which I believe were from www.handhealth.com) especially if I'm going to do multisphere stuff.

Re: caution wen stretching

Colin — Wed Nov 28, 2024 8:10 am

Author: Colin

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2024 8:10 am

[quote="jstntlvr"]
pleas be careful with this, that may mean you're stretching your tendons and they don't recover like muscle. You have greatly increased the anterior flexibility of your hand but possibly at the cost of grip strength and possible permanent tendon damage. you should only stretch to the edge of comfort not to the edge of your pain threshold ( I don't mean to say this is what you have done just that it can happen if a person isn't careful) stretching is a careful balancing act between good flexibility and good tendon strength. Week tendons make joints more prone to injury and stretched tendons are week
/quote]

something like that. the more you stretch the less of a rush you will be when you do it. I am less likely to go in for the pain threshold if I am keeping up on my health.

Also probably more important than range of flexibility, is alignment. when stretching, keep you feet pointing in straight lines, hips squared, back erect, things like that.

Re: Flexibility

dpizarro159 — Tue Nov 27, 2024 7:00 pm

Author: dpizarro159

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2024 7:00 pm

wyahahhahahaa stewie.....

Re: Flexibility

Somnilocus — Tue Nov 27, 2024 6:13 pm

Author: Somnilocus

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2024 6:13 pm

jstntlvr wrote:

glad to hear it
by the way why did you get rid of the lecherous pikachu

Why, you likey?

*POOF* it has changed again, as if by some sort of magics.

Re: Flexibility

jstntlvr — Tue Nov 27, 2024 5:34 pm

Author: jstntlvr

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2024 5:34 pm

glad to hear it
by the way why did you get rid of the lecherous pikachu

Re: Flexibility

Somnilocus — Tue Nov 27, 2024 4:37 pm

Author: Somnilocus

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2024 4:37 pm

Quote:

pleas be careful with this, that may mean you're stretching your tendons and they don't recover like muscle. You have greatly increased the anterior flexibility of your hand but possibly at the cost of grip strength and possible permanent tendon damage. you should only stretch to the edge of comfort not to the edge of your pain threshold ( I don't mean to say this is what you have done just that it can happen if a person isn't careful) stretching is a careful balancing act between good flexibility and good tendon strength. Week tendons make joints more prone to injury and stretched tendons are week

Lol no worries, I didn't quite mean it literally (I rarely do). ;P You're always to be very gentle with these stretches, never forcing anything. This is all it requires, and it increases your flexibility muchly~

Re: Flexibility

su-nami — Tue Nov 27, 2024 2:53 pm

Author: su-nami

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2024 2:53 pm

[quote="Colin"]I am not that young any more. but have recently been able to put both legs behind my head. something I havent been able to do since I was about 14 lol[/quote]

wow i'v never been able to do that.

caution wen stretching

jstntlvr — Tue Nov 27, 2024 2:37 pm

Author: jstntlvr

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2024 2:37 pm

Quote:

fingers end up being able to bed backwards and kiss their own butts

Re: Flexibility

Colin — Tue Nov 27, 2024 2:22 pm

Author: Colin

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2024 2:22 pm

I am not that young any more. but have recently been able to put both legs behind my head. something I havent been able to do since I was about 14 lol

Re: Flexibility

Somnilocus — Tue Nov 27, 2024 3:49 am

Author: Somnilocus

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2024 3:49 am

Try the mineshaft with DDD boobies, THEN talk to me.

Seriously, though! Yoga is the way to go. Ommmmmmmmmmmmmm. And sometimes you just have to adjust and work with your body.

jstntlvr makes a really good point... my art teacher REQUIRED all of us to do these hand stretches before, after, and during our work. She developed some major problems from DRAWING... yeah, not very hardcore, yet it permanently ruined her wrist. She can barely grip things anymore. And, surprisingly, because of doing these stretches daily... fingers end up being able to bed backwards and kiss their own butts, seriously.

Re: Flexibility

jstntlvr — Wed Nov 14, 2024 9:33 am

Author: jstntlvr

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2024 9:33 am

I'm just glad that as an amiture I can find something to contribute on occasion

Re: Flexibility

PorcuBrine — Tue Nov 13, 2024 10:54 am

Author: PorcuBrine

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2024 10:54 am

good stuff jstntlvr; have a watch people, it may be about bass but he makes a whole load of important points and a new stretch which I haven't seen before.

Re: Flexibility

jstntlvr — Tue Nov 13, 2024 10:20 am

Author: jstntlvr

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2024 10:20 am

I found a youtube video the other day with some hand stretches I know a few more beside whats on it that I use befor I play my doumbek

linky

Re: Flexibility

su-nami — Sun Nov 11, 2024 6:16 pm

Author: su-nami

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2024 6:16 pm

[quote="T0dd"].

I've often noticed that regular ballistic jugglers tend to be lean, wiry people. I don't know if this is because they tend to be starving artists, or because juggling itself has a selection effect, favoring that body type.
.[/quote]

i know what you mean but i dont think body shape has anything to do with it flexibility is just practice, do some streches and youll be surprised after a while

Re: Flexibility

Saulie — Sat Nov 10, 2024 7:10 pm

Author: Saulie

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2024 7:10 pm

I guess I just do everythng the hard way. lol

Saulie

Re: Flexibility

dpizarro159 — Sat Nov 10, 2024 7:02 pm

Author: dpizarro159

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2024 7:02 pm

i found various sretching heres on this forum a cuple of months ago.. dont know if they are still here

Re: Flexibility

Jowze — Sat Nov 10, 2024 10:52 am

Author: Jowze

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2024 10:52 am

Saulie, I read somewhere that it's not specially good to start with the moves you don't have down : when you're not warmed up, you drop more, then you drop even more if you practice on the moves you don't have down. This can teach your muscle memory to overreact to the falling ball.

Then I don't know, I just read it ...

Re: Flexibility

he4rty — Sat Nov 10, 2024 10:24 am

Author: he4rty

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2024 10:24 am

I know a few warm ups, but maybe someone could post some warm up exercises on the wiki (hint,hint) for us real novices.

Re: Flexibility

T0dd — Sat Nov 10, 2024 8:56 am

Author: T0dd

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2024 8:56 am

The trick seems to be stretching the shoulders and wrists. Also, it's a matter of figuring out what height is best for certain moves. I note in videos a few people doing CJ sitting down. I find I can't do much of anything while sitting; I have to be standing up (Of course, even then I can't do much, but I'm making progress, bit by bit).

Re: Flexibility

T0dd — Sat Nov 10, 2024 8:52 am

Author: T0dd

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2024 8:52 am

[quote="Cybele"]whats a ballistic juggler?[/quote]

The kind of juggler who tosses the balls in the air.

Re: Flexibility

dpizarro159 — Fri Nov 09, 2024 11:00 pm

Author: dpizarro159

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2024 11:00 pm

try stretching at least your arms muscles and fingers and wrist... its impressive how you learn and polish your moves...

Re: Flexibility

Saulie — Fri Nov 09, 2024 6:09 pm

Author: Saulie

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2024 6:09 pm

Wow DP. I wish I had that time to prepare. My warm up consists of picking the ball up off the floor from droping it. Because I start with the moves that I do not have down at all. Once I am properly warmed up from bending over to the floor a dozen times or so I go with the things I have down pat.....5 min later(if that) I go to those moves that I am working on.

I am lucky if I can get in a full 30minutes a day, or every other day.

saulie

Re: Flexibility

Cybele — Fri Nov 09, 2024 3:31 pm

Author: Cybele

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2024 3:31 pm

whats a ballistic juggler?